Rep. Zoe Lofgren on “Face the Nation”

The next is a transcript of an interview with Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat and member of the Home Choose Committee investigating Jan. 6, that aired Sunday, June 19, 2022, on “Face the Nation.”

MARGARET BRENNAN: We now need to go to Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren of California. She is in San Jose. Good morning to you. You are one of many investigators on this Choose Committee, and I believe probably the most highly effective moments was when the retired conservative decide Decide Luttig mentioned that he sees a transparent and current hazard at present. He mentioned there might be additional makes an attempt to subvert American democracy in 2024. What precisely is the risk you see?

REPRESENTATIVE ZOE LOFGREN: Effectively, I believe Decide Luttig mentioned it very nicely. And by the way in which, he’s a really conservative man as soon as thought of by Republicans for the Supreme Courtroom. I believe his concern and I share it’s that the previous president is constant on his marketing campaign to undercut confidence within the election system. They’re putting in a loyalist who say that the election was stolen and states have been going to depend the votes. They clearly tried to get the Vice President to throw the precise votes out and substitute electors with the dropping candidate. And it seems to be like that is within the works for the subsequent election as nicely. It is an incredible concern.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So to be clear, there are about 100 Republican candidates for workplace proper now who’re repeating that they’re election deniers they’re repeating a few of what President Trump nonetheless claims. At the very least 5 of them have gained their primaries. Have you ever discovered any direct hyperlinks between any of these candidates and the grift that you’ve been monitoring?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Effectively, we’ll launch further info. I’ve bought the workers engaged on it proper now. Clearly the hearings are a few hours every and you’ll’t lay out all the knowledge that is been compiled. So I do know there’s been substantial curiosity in the- the large rip off and we’ll present further info to the general public quickly.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You are saying establishing direct hyperlinks between these people standing for election to workplace now and the scheme you are laying out?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Not essentially. We are going to lay out what now we have.


CZECH REP. LOFGREN: And other people can have a look at it. I do not need to simply pop off irresponsibly right here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Your colleagues on the committee, Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger mentioned on one other community this morning that he simply acquired a dying risk in opposition to him, his spouse, and his five-month–


MARGARET BRENNAN: –old little one for the work he is doing.


MARGARET BRENNAN: He mentioned there’s violence sooner or later. Do you agree that you’ve a concern of political violence and have you ever acquired threats?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Effectively, I do not need to go into the threads I’ve acquired. I believe it simply encourages extra of them. Nevertheless it’s very regarding that Adam and his spouse and his little child have been threatened. I noticed the risk. It was a written risk. We noticed that Republican Congressman, a really conservative consultant, Crenshaw was roughed up over the weekend at a Republican assembly, as a result of he was not conservative sufficient and I believe that is what the previous president has unleashed right here. , when he despatched out the tweet, attacking his vp, he already knew that the violence was underway. The one conclusion you can–


CZECH REP. LOFGREN: –reach is that he meant to- to speed up that violence in opposition to the previous vp. So, we’re in a really tough time in America proper now. And all of us of us elected officers, but in addition simply Individuals and their neighbors want to face up for the rule of legislation. And in opposition to political violence. It is not what America is about.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-Hmm. Effectively, for the busy American individuals who could not have been watching the hearings as carefully as we have been, precisely what’s the endgame right here? Are you laying out a roadmap for the Division of Justice to in the end attempt to prosecute the previous president?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: We’re doing what we have been requested to do when the committee was fashioned, which is to seek out the reality, lay it out, and we can even be making legislative suggestions. For instance, the Electoral Rely Act was violated, Dr. Eastman admitted as a lot, however we expect we are able to tighten that up so it’s much less inclined to abuse. We’re working at, particularly Liz Cheney and I, are engaged on that. The Division of Justice has to make its personal resolution. We’re laying out information, they will see it, however I am positive they’ve entry to different info as a result of they have grand juries assembly with numerous defendants. We’re going to be useful to them by way of particular info that they want from the- our personal investigations, however they got- it is not the position of Congress to resolve who will get prosecuted.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Effectively, a variety of your committee members your fellow committee members have criticized Legal professional Normal Garland for not transferring sooner. So, they do need to see some type of motion right here. And there was this letter–

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Effectively that was for–

MARGARET BRENNAN: –from the Justice Division asking for transcripts and saying that your committee’s failure to right away hand them over was complicating their investigation. Precisely what’s going on right here?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Effectively, that was sort of- we have been shocked by that, frankly. And we’ll interact. We’re not going to be an impediment to the Division of Justice prosecution of people. We’re in the midst of placing these hearings collectively. The workers is working, I imply, extremely exhausting together with the members of Congress the place we’ll get, you understand, explicit info that they want over to them in an orderly method. Definitely, by- by the start of subsequent month.

MARGARET BRENNAN: By the start of subsequent month. Within the subsequent week, you’ve gotten a variety of Republican officers from state native governments coming together with Arizona Home Speaker Rusty Bowers, who mentioned he had been pressured by the President, the previous president’s legal professional Rudy Giuliani and by the previous president himself to retroactively change Arizona legislation to decide on a distinct slate of presidential electors. He additionally has mentioned he acquired emails from Ginni Thomas to reverse Trump’s loss and he or she is the spouse in fact of sitting Supreme Courtroom Justice Clarence Thomas, will you ask Bowers about that hyperlink to Thomas?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Effectively, I am not going to step on the committee’s strains for the listening to. However clearly, as you understand, we have invited Ginni Thomas to return in and go to with the committee, reply our questions, and we have truly acquired further info once we bought proof from the Eastman emails which have now been ordered launched by Decide Carter in California. And so now we have questions for her and we could have questions for him as nicely.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Will Ginni Thomas seem or do you should subpoena her? Will her husband seem?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Effectively, we have requested her to point out up. She- it was a non-public letter, she determined to reveal it, which is her proper to do. And he or she mentioned publicly that she seems to be ahead to coming in and speaking to us. So I take her at her phrase that she intends to return in and we stay up for speaking to her.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Congresswoman Lofgren, thanks to your time, and we’ll be watching. Face the Nation shall be again in a minute. Stick with us.

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